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    Posted: 27 Oct 2009 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by razzie50 razzie50 wrote:

I popped in to my local Nissan dealership today to see if they would check my windscreen wipers and tell me what part I needed to replace. One of the mechanics came out to my car and we had a chat about the engine too. He said unless the timing chain is rattling they wouldn't say to replace it (and the price of £650+ too...) and he agrees that it's probably the MAF. won't hurt to buy a Bosch one and try it I guess. 
 
said exactly the same thing to me,
and mine was not rattling either LOL
 
keep us posted on what happens with the new MAF fitted.
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I popped in to my local Nissan dealership today to see if they would check my windscreen wipers and tell me what part I needed to replace. One of the mechanics came out to my car and we had a chat about the engine too. He said unless the timing chain is rattling they wouldn't say to replace it (and the price of £650+ too...) and he agrees that it's probably the MAF. won't hurt to buy a Bosch one and try it I guess. 
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Oh and my car had done 118,000 miles when we finally gave in and changed the timing chain,
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that vid was of my rev counter april this year,
that problem started in december last year (08) with the odd twitch now and then,
then leading up to April this year thats how bad it got, before we changed the chain etc. after changing the chain etc it then disappeared,
Im not saying yours is the same but 90% of the guys i spoke to on here said yup timing chain stretch,
I now listen to what  they say on here and do it straight away,
like this post on fault codes i ordered the pre cat o2 sensor and they said on here no point its the Maf,
so ordered that too, changed Maf and all is fine, o2 sensor is now on the shelf in the garage LOL
 
maybe one of the guys could advise you a bit further,
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Oh, and the car has done 114,000 miles
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Hi, Yes that video is what it is doing, though not as badly and it has certainly improved since we adjusted the TPS
Please don't let it be the timing chain, I can't afford it Dead
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Originally posted by Stevie J Stevie J wrote:

Timing chain replacement? thats gonna be eyewateringly expensive!
You need to hope you dont need a new chain, or it'll set you back several hundred quid!
tell me about it,
nissan quoted me £760 Dead
managed to get a timing chain set for a non varible timing motor (crank and cam gears(non varible timing gears), timing chain guides and tensioner), for £186 and did the work myself,
every thing was replaced except the varible timing gear,
had no probs ever since.
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Timing chain replacement? thats gonna be eyewateringly expensive!
You need to hope you dont need a new chain, or it'll set you back several hundred quid!
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is your rev counter doing this?
if so you maybe looking at a timing chain replacement,
others on here will be able to help you more im just going by past advice and personal experience,
how many miles has the car done?
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Stevie J wouldnt advise it, as its a film type MAF on the 144, which are easily damaged. I tried cleaning mine, but made no difference. I think these mafs suffer from internal faults in the circuitry eventually so its better just to replace them. 10 years or 100K they seem to go after.
The MAF is secured in its housing by anti tamper screws, so that you cant start spraying it or poking around with it, due to the fact that the sensor is fragile.
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