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Haydnw
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Hi, Can anyone help ? I’m having problems with my 2004 P12 2.2 DCi SVE hatch. Sorry this is a bit long winded but I want to give as much
info as possible in the hope of finding a fix for the problem. Problems started about a month ago - as I was driving I got a
very strong smell of diesel, I stopped to investigate, lifted the bonnet and
found diesel spraying at high pressure from a steel pipe from behind the engine
on the driver’s side. I took the car to a local repairer/breaker he replaced the
pipe but said that he couldn’t understand why the pipe had fractured and
suspected movement between the fuel pump and engine block. The pipe fractured again within a couple of miles of
driving, I took the car back and the repairer who replaced a fuel pump mounting
plate ?? (he did show me damaged parts which looked like a large(ish) bearing
housing with two torx head fixing bolts which were badly bent) he said that to
replace it he had to take the engine out, he also mentioned that I was
fortunate that one of the bolts hadn’t dropped into the timing chain and
wrecked the engine. The car was running fine apart from erratic tick-over which
had been present previously, the repairer said that this was probably the
suction control valve and it would need replacing in the near future. The car ran OK for about two weeks (500 miles) then wouldn’t start one morning, I
called the AA out, they got the car started but it would stall at less than 1000
rpm and was then difficult to restart – the AA guy said he suspected air being
drawn into the fuel system. I took it back to the repairer who after investigation found
that with the electrical connection to the Suction control valve disconnected
it started and ticked over OK. I'd be grateful for any help/advice. Haydn
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timeshock!
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The first code is a direct correlation to your symptom telling you the fuel pressure is far to high this could be caused by an open circuit on the fuel pump, a dodgy fuel pump or the fuel rail pressure sensor. Your 2nd code is MAF sensor but that is probably because it can not feed enough air for the fuel.
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Haydnw
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Thanks Timeshock,
Can you suggest a strategy for testing/eliminating the fault. I'm guessing start by replacing the pressure sensor ? Can open circuit on the fuel pump be repaired, how would you check it ? I'm hoping that it isn't a dodgy pump , the car was running OK with good power (apart from the difficult starting and tick-over) when I took it in. Haydn
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timeshock!
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What is surprising me is that you have suffered component failure due to excessive fuel pressure and believe me we are dealing with very high pressures when running normal. The is a fuel relief valve which detects high pressure and relieves the fuel back to the tank this should have kicked in, I wonder if this is faulty. Have a look at the ESM page EC-1746
As for open circuits you would need to trace the wiring checking for chaffing and grounding of the wires. i don't think it will be a pump issue, more like readings, filters, lines
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timeshock!
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Also EC-1812
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Haydnw
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Thanks again for your help.
I'll check those out. Haydn
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imckay
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If a different SCV has been fitted wouldn't the ECU reset need to be done?
http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/p12-all-engines-read-reset-ecu-fuel-pump_topic54932.html |
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Haydnw
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Imckay,
Thanks for your input - I have tried the reset procedure but can't get the engine management light to flash at all, not sure why. Haydn
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imckay
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All down to timing I believe.
Failing that, I think an OBD2 code reader/resetter should also do the job. |
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Haydnw
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Car is now healthy again - Timeshock was, as ever, spot on with his diagnosis.
repair to a wiring fault to the fuel pressure sensor and reset of the SCV cured the problem, unfortunately it was beyond my DIY electrical skills so I entrusted it to an auto electrical specialist. I'm now £300 poorer but the car is running better than it ever has. thanks for your help and advice guys Haydn
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