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    Posted: 24 Apr 2017 at 8:01pm
Hi,

I got this problem:

1. the engine would stall, when the cluch is pressed.
i "fixed the problem by adjusting the "idle screw" on the throttlebody.

month later..

2. When i startet the car, the radio would make a loud horrible sound.
it would only start after the 2. try.

hours later..

3. When i tried to start the car.. ALL power would go out (even the clock) and a loud noise is heard.
The only way i could get all the power back on, is by reconnecting the battery.
after many hours.. i disvovred that if i grounded the engine to the battery, it would start just fine. 

some time later..

4. Now the engine just randomly stalls at idle. Or stalls when gas i applied/cluch pressed down


Debug info:

When the engine stalls at idle:
Video:
https://goo.gl/photos/yCXXD1mRencPwn629

OBDlog:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_DxrIxWG7uBUVhYZXJubTRKYTg

When the engine stalls, when gas is applied or cluched is pressed:
Video:
https://goo.gl/photos/tpodS4ECkxoRLY4n7

OBD log:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_DxrIxWG7uBYUZjcHVwNTUxblk





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It is a SR20de year 1999
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Have you had a go at cleaning the throttle body and the idle air control valve yet? If not do that next..

Make sure you haven't got any damaged/disconnected hose pipes around the intake/inlet area.
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About 6-8 month ago i replaced the hole throttle body (mainly to get cruise control).
I do get a P0420 code once or twice a month.
There seems to be no signs og vacuum of leaks.
the fuel pump seems to be running fine until it stalls.

can it be a electrical issue? (why would the ground go bad in the matter of hours?)

Thanks :)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote imckay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2017 at 7:39am
Stalling when slowing down is usually caused by the MAF (luftmaengdesensor)
They wear out at around 120-160K KM

Recommended to replace with genuine Bosch
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Ok tak/thanks :)

Yeah it is pretty clear, that something is wrong with the MAF:
According to the manual, there should be: (picture: https://goo.gl/photos/5KdJBoFTnmVpBMa67)

At 2500 rpm 1.8 - 2.4v (there is 1.70v)
https://goo.gl/photos/JeyQUQFND9bn13Ns8

At 4000 rpm 4.0v (there is 1.95v)
https://goo.gl/photos/Spkum8XYKY4ppKSD7

BUT!:
The power went out again.. (as shown in the video)
video: https://youtu.be/IBuZZUOa_Dg

The only way i can get it back on, is by disconnecting the battery.
This time the engine ground is new.

HOW can the power go out like that, i really dont understand how its even possible, to lose all power like that.




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ohh i just discovered in the video..

That the fuel-gauge and temp-gauge is stuck, when the power goes out.
even if i take the key out.
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There is 12,5 volts on the battery when the power goes out.
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Very strange. No idea what could be causing that.

Try unplugging the MAF
The Car wont drive very well at all without it but it will start and idle.
I tried on my 144 years ago. I don't think it would rev beyond about 2K.
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