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    Posted: 17 Jul 2018 at 12:13pm
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Good feedback, pleased you got it sorted, that is a good price for a belt and fittingThumbs Up
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Originally posted by imckay imckay wrote:

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It's the first time my trusted Primera gives me trouble in 13 years of happy ownership. And it mostly came because the crooks from the insurance company set a car age limit with the comprehensive travel insurance thst I had purchased. I shopped around a lot before leaving and could't find any company that would cover technical incidents for a 13 years old car, regardless of the technical condition of the vehicle.
Btw, forgot to mention it, the belt got replaced with a new one, it was stretched about 1/3 inch overall. In hindsight, checking and adjusting the tension on the auxiliary belts before leaving on a long trip would have been a good idea.

Big thanks to Brian who took the time to write long and comprehensive descriptions of the job involved.
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Glad to hear you got it fixed for a reasonable price.
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Originally posted by schwen schwen wrote:

can we ask in wich banana republic are you suffering your holidays?


 Suffering isn't the word that comes to mind, actually the whole thing is quite nice overall. That's until the car has an unexpected problem lol. 
 I managed to had it fixed yesterday for about 50 euros but that was a stroke of dumb luck. After calling the garages which appeared on gps and being quoted insane amounts for towing and so on I noticed that the little transport bus which passes in front of the hotel goes all the way to the autobus central station of the nearby town. Figured out there may be garages in that area so I boarded it and 30 mins later I landed in a part of the city that probably sees a tourist in 20 years. :)). There was an entire street lined up with garages, everything from general automotive to radiator repairs, AC service and so on.
 Spent about 1 hour there going from one crook to another until I found a small garage where the folks actually wanted to make a honest quick buck. The hard part was explaining what the problem was, as they spoke no foreign language whatsoever.
 Thanks again for the support, knowing in advance the bolt size was very helpful.
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There's no need to remove the servo or any part on it,yes it's tight to access the tensioner but it's doable.

If you feel the need to though you could lower the engine a few inch by removing the left hand engine mount and the 2 front crossmember bolts,which would make it easier at the back of the engine,but support the engine with the jack on the air con pump bracket or place some wood across the sump with the jack if going this route.
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can we ask in wich banana republic are you suffering your holidays?
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Things don't look too bright: I borrowed a hydraulic jack and a French key (adjustable size) from the guy operating the hotel's transfer minibus and lifted the car in the parking lot. Then removed the shield and without sticking my head too much under the car tried to pull the belt back on the engine pulley. Sadly I wasn't even close to success. I presumed the belt was stretched but apparently that's not the case. Anyway' I checked again both the water pump and the servo pump pulleys for any kind of play, all seems to be OK, they spin nice and don't appear to have any sort of axial movement.
 Just as a last resort thing, does anyone know if this type of engine and gearbox can rotate backwards without sustaining any damage? I MAY be able to slide the belt back on the engine pulley if I can rotate the engine back (putting in 5th and pushing the car back with the gearbox engaged). But I'd try this only if anything else fails...
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Err, meant the low pressure hose, the one going to the servo fluid tank. I don't remember ever changing it so it must be 13 years old...
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 Tbh I wouldn't be so cautious if I was in Spain :)

 Anyway, I had a close look at the whole thing this morning and in order to do the job properly it seems clear that the servo fluid tank would have to be removed from it's mounts and moved out of the way. Which would open a fresh can of worms in case the pressure hose cracks/gets weakened and so on.
 However, if I use Roy's approach and find a suitable pavement nearby I may be able to safely slide under the car, remove the shield and attempt to drag the belt on the engine pulley. 
 The belt must be really overstretched if it managed to jump off, as the 'lips' on all 3 pulleys involved are really tall and perfectly aligned. Checked both the water pump and the servo pulleys, they spin freely.
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