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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Totenkopf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 8:19am
There are actually three different generations of P11.

The folling differences are based on cars with a SR- engine. Most of the differences apply to the rest also. The dates are manufacturing dates, NOT first registration!

*96 to 10/97 = P11
-this is the first generation
-twin plug distributor
-256mm front discs (except GT and SE)
-14" wheels
-side feed injectors
-engine codes SR20De (131hp) and SR20DE (150hp)

10/97 to 06/99 = P11-120
-15" wheels on all models
-side airbags
-280mm front discs
-single plug distributor
-bosch top feed injectors
-different abs motor & control unit
-rear indicators changed from clear to amber
-Nissan FAST was introduced, so the codes changed to
SR20DEL (former De) and SR20DEH (former DE)
-WP11 was introduced
-SE body came available with the DEH engine

06/99 to 02/02 the P11-144
-engine code changed back to SR20DE, since the 150hp engine
was no longer produced
-OBD2 protocol
-hydraulic clutch
-ate brake system
-wings, bonnet, bumpers, trunk lid etc. were of a new design
-carved front seats for more leg room
-auto air conditioning
-CVT transmission was introduced

These are the biggest obvious differences.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dawek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 3:36pm
Wow, that's some great info.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote alvin_roy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 10:47am
Hi there!

The P11-144 were sold in the following trimOrdered Lists:
  1. Comfort
  2. Luxury
  3. Sport
  4. Elegance

Some differences between P11 & P11-144:

  • P11-144 grew in length to reach 452 cm (Saloon)
  • Ventilated Disc Brakes at Front and Disc Brakes at Rear
  • GA16DE (100 hp) was replaced by QG16DE around mid 1999
  • SR20DE was de-tuned from 150 hp to 140 hp
  • CVT and CVT-M6 with SR20DE

I will post more later

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Hi, 

thanks for the input, I didn't expect anyone to contribute anymore. Thumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Totenkopf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2018 at 8:14pm
All P11's have ventilated front discs. The difference is that tve brake system is made by ATE in P11-144 and Girling or Lucas in P11 and P11-120.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 9:30pm
From German Wikipedia


Models with clear rear indicators 1.6 90bhp, 2.0 115bhp, 2.0 se/sri 130bhp, gt 150bhp

P11 120 Yellow rear indicators 1.6 99bhp, 2.0 130 bhp, gt 150bhp also these got electronic brake distribution(EBD)

P11 144 GA16DE 99bhp QG16DE106bhp QG18DE 113 bhp SR20DE 140bhp
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FinPrimera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 9:16pm
Hi. I have year 1997 P11 1.6 with drum brakes on back 😑. Rolled 369 thousand km and still keeps going. My friend has P11-144 with 2.0 and CVT, snapped timing chain and is scrapping his car so I could get hold on bigger brakes and rear axle with discs with bargain. I think P11-144 rear axle will fit to my P11 with no brob, how about front brakes? Are there measure differences between front wheel hubs or could I just install 144's front brake brackets, calipers, rotors and stuff. If changing front brakes are no-go, there will be issue with brake balance, and if I understand correct FSM, there's no dual proportioning valve in P11-144 with CVT? Then I would have to settle just replacing drums with basic discs in rear (and it would be fine by me), getting P11's discs, brackets and stuff from car breaker for example.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FinPrimera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 9:58pm
Also there will be issue with P11 <-> P11-144 ABS sensors (are there differences in sensor harness side, obviously drum and disc sensors diff.) hand brake cables (drum vs. disc lever diff. obviously), brake hoses...? 🤔 So, easiest way would be settling on bargain 144's rear axle made for discs and getting P11's disc brakes parts for it?
Love my car, I am going to roll 450 k with it just to upset my co-workers who have Volvos, BMW's or Mercedes Sorry for going off topic there (and many more places).
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