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hi there  not too savi with  site  .  but here we go  does any one know if  ECU  needs reprograming after fitting second hand one with  ALL  numbers matching  on p12  primera dci 2.2 .  03  plate 
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Yes it needs to go to the dealer, ECU is part of the nats
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thanks for reply timeshock.   have you any ider  of the cost for reprograming .    this car as been my waterloo.   i  retired  from  the motor trade 3yrs ago .   good job  as its  changed so much.  over the years.   is there any one  other than agent with the gear .   as its a renault  lump and there ele. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timeshock! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 2018 at 12:31am

It is not that much but prices vary so ring around for quotes. Surprised you needed to change the ECU

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hi time shock.  thanks again for your time . its a very long story.  it started  years ago.  called the AA/out we agreed it seemed  like the crank sesnor  had gone, so i put a new one  on  no joy there.   nothing showing on dash.     up shot  3 mates garages later 2more AA  call outs  2 rac  1  green flag. still  no joy .and still nothing on dash,   the car would  start  but when it got to tempritcure , just very hard to restart.    pulled the plug  off the temp/sensor  fired stright up FULL REVS TILL i put the plug back. renewed  sensor   no joy. so rewired a switch  on to dash , so ran like that for a long time .  then went back to not starting .     theres   more but ill leave it there and get to now.  i have 2 more cars  .  so i laid  the old girl up.   last week i stated her up  as i did this  ever so often as you do. low and behold it came up on the dash , faulty control  unit.    just do not trust agents , after working for for a few in the past.  1981 barran datsuns west ozy  they were ok  .  just in case,/ nats system  is locking the doors ?     but not too sure about the imoblzer , iam not a auto ele/ 
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Originally posted by timeshock! timeshock! wrote:

I think changing the filter wont harm it has been know on its own not to allow the engine to start, however I think you have a split somewhere on the fuel lines. I have no idea regarding any relationship between pump, voltage and the condition of the fuel system


Today we got round to changing the Fuel filter! Took a while to get to it (wiper arms were SOLID) but once we did it was rather stright forward. Hand primed with new fuel filter fitted... no joy. So the options now are either Lift pump replacment (back seats one) or get someone to have a look at the electrics running to the pump. We are still unsure about the 1.8v... any advice?

Also the Service manual states there should be a drain hose coming out of the bottom of the fuel filter? There is not one on mine, it this just an additional for draining or is it actually ment to lead somewhere?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timeshock! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2018 at 7:09pm
Did you follow the bleeding operation and it still did not firm up?

Air Bleeding EBS00GX7

After fuel filter is replaced and after fuel system components are

removed/installed, bleed air from fuel path as follows.

1. Move priming pump up and down to bleed air from fuel path.

2. When air is bled, pumping of priming pump becomes heavy stop

operation at that time.

3. Crank the engine until it starts. Do not crank the engine for more

than 30 seconds.

4. If the engine does not starts, stop cranking and repeat step 1

above.

5. If the engine does not operate smoothly after it has started, race

it two or three times.

6. If air cannot be bled easily (pumping of priming pump does not become heavy), disconnect feed-side of

hose between fuel filter and electronically controlled fuel injection pump. After that, operate priming pump

and confirm that fuel comes out.

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Yes we have downloaded the ESM, and followed the steps mentioned above. The pump did not firm and no fuel came out of the pipe.
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If you kept pumping the primer and no fuel I would suspect either no fuel, leak on the fuel line between tank and primer, of broken filter housing/primer
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Hey TS.

I've had a bloke check the fuel pressure and that was okay. Does that cover the integrity of the lines?

I have ordered another Fuel pump (the one under the back seats) I think some people refer to it as the lift pump/sender unit? Will have a go at changing that this weekend.

I'm just trying to work out if this model is a common rail fuel system or a electronic pump or something? Someone asked me but I wasn't to sure!

Many thanks

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