Nissan Primera P11-144 QG18DE Timing chain change

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   Morning All,

now im a wee bit stuck.

Instructions mention crankshaft key facing up and camshafts at -45 and +45 respectively from 90 degree straight up position for TDC NO.1.

However No.1 is at TDC (tested) and crankshaft key faces down and not up. Noticed that the manual is for Sentra 03. Should be the same QG motor but there are differences in intake sprocket and also minor layout (i.e. hex position on camshafts and the oil solenoid).

Now do I go with the actual position (crankshaft yellow mark faces left as should) or turn further.

Axel

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Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 10:42am
	Morning All, now im a wee bit stuck. Instructions mention crankshaft key facing up and camshafts at -45 and +45 respectively from 90 degree straight up position for TDC NO.1. However No.1 is at TDC (tested) and crankshaft key faces down and not up. Noticed that the manual is for Sentra 03. Should be the same QG motor but there are differences in intake sprocket and also minor layout (i.e. hex position on camshafts and the oil solenoid). Now do I go with the actual position (crankshaft yellow mark faces left as should) or turn further. Axel
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bricktop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Location: Lincolnshire Online Status: Points: 1108	Post Options Post Reply Quote bricktop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 11:46am
	It's been a couple of years since I did the QG18DE on the missus P12 but from what I remember it is a simple case of putting the crank pulley on and setting the engine to TDC with the markings on the engine. Then put the crank sprocket on then match up the chain to the dots on the sprockets. Stick the crank pulley back on and give it a few turns by hand to make sure everything lines up correctly. Saying that I can not remember how the crank sprocket was when it was at TDC but I do remember setting the cams at -45 and + 45.

Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 12:40pm
	That doesnae look healthy imho... Axel
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Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 12:43pm
	And another try... Axel
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Ant-Dat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List NPOC Legend 1998 Primera GT Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: In workshop Online Status: Points: 16125	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ant-Dat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 6:58pm
	that's fubar I'd download the p11-144 manual and use that
	SB "he isn't human, he is a machine that never falter

Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 8:18pm
	And now adding insult to injury the cover is cracked when we didnt find the last bolt. But fingers crossed it can be fixed (welded) and I get it back tomoz morning... Could this be in for the longest-chain-replacement-medal??? Axel
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Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 11:37pm
	FINALLY... all done and dusted... test drive went well HOWEVER noticed the front crossmember is nearly dead... Any thoughts were to get it as inexpensive as possible? Axel
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redshark1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Location: Yorkshire (West) Online Status: Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote redshark1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 7:17am
	Well done on the timing chain, this brings you instant sainthood as far as I'm concerned! You are welcome to my notes on this subject, contributed by other members: Front Crossmember): There are two different types that can be used for the P11 - 144: part: 625302J030 used from 96-99 and : 625309F530 used from 96-02 there doesn't seem to be any pattern to usage either. gotta love Nissan's logic. Non genuine panel £155 eBay.or autopanels of Castleford Even cheaper here at £98 http://www.clevelandpanels.com/nissan/nissan-primera-p11-99-02.html A garage repair is around £180 parts for a non genuine panel plus many hundreds in labour so it's worth attempting to stop the rust in this area. It’s possible to save money by cutting out the rusty part of the panel and welding in part of the new panel if you can find a good welder prepared to do this. I promise you that going to Nissan will give you a heart attack when they quote you, or it will make you bankrupt, or both!! Don't waste your time even picking up the phone, or the fuel to go and visit them. The front panel that you need, is available from many motorfactors and panel suppliers (yes it's NON Nissan) but will be fine, it will also be considerably less expensive! http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/nissan-primera-p12-cross-member_topic61070.html? Now you need to shop around, as you could find it for less!! You need to do the legwork on that one. The amount of labour that goes into the change is quite scary too.. Read this thread for info on that and it also includes some costings, based on another members experience (he did NOT use Nissan!): http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/nissan-primera-p12-front-crossmember-issue_topic36054_page1.html
	See my Nissan Primera P11-144 common faults and fixes guide:

Ant-Dat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List NPOC Legend 1998 Primera GT Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: In workshop Online Status: Points: 16125	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ant-Dat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 8:35am
	depends on what you mean by crossmember, the crossmember is really the part that goes front to back with the 2 engine mounts. which I don't think is your issue, I'm guessing you actually mean the Radiator support panel sadly the 144 panel is the most expressive Nissan do just the lower section but the cost is well ove3r £300 so it easier/ cheaper to buy an after market one. Your will need to cut and weld in the new part, when i'm doing them i usually cut up the new panel and just use the lower section by sectioning it in
	SB "he isn't human, he is a machine that never falter

Aggel321 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List NPOC Guest Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Location: Scotland Online Status: Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote Aggel321 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Jun 2014 at 11:49am
	Thx for your replies... CP adds VAT to the £97. Found http://www.nicedeals.co.uk/index.php?cPath=1_273_365 who have the price inc VAT... At least it seems so... Maybe adding it when proceeding... Well, Ant & Steve, I am thinking of replacing it as a whole so that only bolting and no welding is involved... Will need to find out how to preserve it the best way... But this will be quoted by the bestest garage I found so far... But thats all future music... And yes, I cannae move anymore today... Every bone/muscle hurts like hell... Axel
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