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    Posted: 06 Jun 2012 at 3:40pm
Having spent a couple of hours looking for my keys this weekend (which i found) i have decided i ought to invest in a spare key.

I've bought a key from ebay thats the same frequency as mine so i can reprogam the central locking part.

But i've just spoken to my local Nissan dealer about getting a blade cut and having the chip reprogrammed so it will also start the car. After questioning me about which key it was (the squaree one with 2 buttons with white symbols on them-non NATS) he tells me that there isn't a chip that needs reprogramming. That i will be able to get a blade cut, fit it to the fob and the key will start the car. Surely this isn't right?

I made sure that he didn't have the wrong end of the stick and he confirmed again that all i needed to do was have a blade cut, i could fit it to any fob of the same type and it would start the car.

If someone could confirm that would be great.

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Sorry. I should have added that its a 53 plate, P12 estate. I can't seem to find a button to let me edit my origional post.
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IIRC, al P12s have NATS (Nissan Anti Theft System),, which is basically an immobiliser system, and some have an optional Theft System, with alarm and such. Higher specced cars have the Theft system standard, I believe.
Looking at the BL section of the electronic service manual, from page 151 onward, there is talk about registering the key ID.
The square key has a small logic board inside, with a unique identifier, that has to be registered in the smart entrance unit. So no separate chip in the key that needs programming, the smart entrance unit just needs to be told that the new key is allowed to start the car.
The procedure is on the forum somewhere. You need all keys for the procedure, as sometimes they loose the registration of the old keys.


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The key consists of two parts.One is the transponder, its the little black thing that sits at an angle in the casing close to the key.This is the NATS part which the immobilizer has to be programmed to recognize using Consult2.
The other part is the remote controller, thats the circuit board you see when changing the battery,this part you can program yourself.
Can only imagine he thought you were trying to build one good key out of two by swapping parts.
Just finished reprogramming the remote on my key as it had died and lost the code but that only affected locking and unlocking the car not starting it.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wickydude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 12:15am
Ah, you mean the bit in the red circle?


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Btw, i still think registering the key is enough. No proof tho, except BL-105


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Have the same issue, in that the car came with only one key, bought two more off well known selling Site, and now need to get them paired to the car. 
There seems to be a number of different posts on how to pair the keys to the car, most seem to be for the older primera keys, are there any ones that are for these keys that work no problem at all, as being able to just get in the car would be a start if keys were lost. 
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Originally posted by Electrolyte Electrolyte wrote:

The key consists of two parts.One is the transponder, its the little black thing that sits at an angle in the casing close to the key.This is the NATS part which the immobilizer has to be programmed to recognize using Consult2.
The other part is the remote controller, thats the circuit board you see when changing the battery,this part you can program yourself.
Can only imagine he thought you were trying to build one good key out of two by swapping parts.
Just finished reprogramming the remote on my key as it had died and lost the code but that only affected locking and unlocking the car not starting it.
 

So which guide did you use to program the keys please, my car has the same key as in the picture in this thread, so if yours is the same key type, I would appreciate the method of programming the keys, then I can go about getting the key to work with starting the car through the dealer.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Electrolyte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2012 at 11:08am
That is the transponder circled in the picture above.Every single one has a unique code built in.When you insert the key into the ign it is powered by induction from the coil at the ign barrel.The immobilizer and engine management units have to be programmed to identify these chips up to a max of 4.This has to be done by Dealer using  Consult 2.      Refer to pages BL-172-173
Any remote part of the key can be programmed to be able to lock/unlock  any car but if the transponder isn't recognized it can't start the engine.    Refer page BL-110
After recoding the first key which is in the ign barrel you can recode a second key leaving the first in the ign ( don't have to swap over keys)
It's a bit awkward with the key in ign and you need to press the lock button fairly rapidly.Might have to do the sequence a few times to get it rite.
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just to be clear you'll have to start the sequence with your good key leaving it in the ign then program your other keys ,this should allow the other keys to open the car but not start it. 
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