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    Posted: 01 May 2011 at 3:40pm
Hi I've read a number of very useful threads on NPOC about poor engine running, engine management light staying on and Mass Air Filter (MAF) issues but lots of different opinions / conclusions! Hence I've decided to join NPOC and post my questions hoping for some help as I have a similar set of issues!
 
I have newly acquired a 1800 Primera S 2001 Y reg (hence P12?) and it is an excellent car with just a couple of faults. The engine management light stays on - Garage say the code indicates lean mixture but it passed the MOT emission test fine. (Garage switched the light off but it came back within 24 hrs as it has done in the past). As regards performance it is generally fine (although rather less pull than I would expect from a 1.8) and it takes it's own sweet time to speed up, no sense of power coming at all when you floor the throttle!
 
However the main issue is that it does have a tendency to completely lose power when pulling away after starting up, it would probably cut out if I didn't drop the clutch, but if I then wait a few seconds with the engine running it's fine for the rest of the journey. It can also do something similar when overtaking on the motorway, there's just nothing there when trying to accelerate after it's been doing a constant speed for a while.
 
It's ok and driveable (sort of) although I did nearly go through a mates garage doors when leaving his drive (on a hill) when I lost power and dipped the clutch!
 
The combination of issues (engine mgt light on and loss of power) sounds similar to a number of threads on NPOC. Is this a common Primera problem and is replacing the MAF a sensible way to go? Also I would be very grateful if anyone could clarify whether there is one MAF or two, are we talking about valves or sensors, where are they located, is it a difficult job, do they need a torx and are they expensive or cheap (I've seen £18 and £400 quoted on the forums)!
 
Many thanks for any help anyone can offer!
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hmm you sure its a P12, Y reg seems a bit early for one, have a look here and let us know if it is defo a P12..
 
 
I reckon you may have a P11-144
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Hi Ragt20
 
Yes you're right I'd worked out from Wikipaedia that it wasn't a "proper" P11 then forgot about the P144 facelift when I was writing the post!!
 
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ok will edit the title for you. and the mafs are a more common issue on the 144s, fortunately the 1.8 mafs are a reasonable price to get a new one, so should solve your problems without too much expense

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crazy taxi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2011 at 11:21am
here's the part you will need, with yours being a direct swap you wont need the torx bit, just swap the whole unit

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Nissan_Primera_1.8_2000/p/car-parts/engine-parts/fuel-and-engine-management/engine-management-sensor/?434700000&1&e70d4306b3b31ffa3c86e0e4f7ce46164d58b2f7&AFME 
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Thanks Ragt and Crazy taxi.
I've now identified the correct model (P11 144), downloaded the Manuals from the NPOC link (http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/nissan-primera-factory-service-manuals_topic29493.html)
and read the NPOC "How to" forum on flashing the engine management codes (via the diagnostic plug under the fusebox to the right of the steering wheel.) http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/p11144-diagnostic-check-clear-and-codes_topic8946.html
I've also got the link to a replacement Bosch part from Eurocarparts (£86) if it does turn out to be the MAF
so now just need to find some time to go and do the diagnostics!
I'll let you know how I get on....
 
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You can buy a cheap fault code reader off ebay for less than £20
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Plus dont forget the 30 quid surcharge, so when you return the old unit the price drops back down
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Thanks ady_c
 
I'll check that out, it may be worth it in the long term as I'm hoping to keep this car a while.
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Whatever you do though, DON'T get tempted by the ebay mafs, they have been proved to be crap time and time again.
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