Nissan Primera P11 GT- Oil Change Advice |
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Primera Dave
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god that risky who know what they will put it
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Golf mk4 gti turbo. 3'' downpipe and de-cat, 2.75'' Jetex cat back, k&n induction kit and custom heat shield, 3'' intake, forge 007p dv, stage 1 190 Bhp map,Koni uprated shocks and h&r springs + more
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essNchill
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Do the oil change yourself, you'll feel great afterwards
Any oil as long as it is clean and fresh, will be fine for your car.. My comment at the start of this thread was because the oil debate "Which oil is best for my car..." threads have been popping up for years and there really is no definitive answer, apart from clean. What oil benefits someone elses GT, isn't always the right oil for your car etc.
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Primera Dave
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perfect
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Golf mk4 gti turbo. 3'' downpipe and de-cat, 2.75'' Jetex cat back, k&n induction kit and custom heat shield, 3'' intake, forge 007p dv, stage 1 190 Bhp map,Koni uprated shocks and h&r springs + more
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daniel9807
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i have just found a guide here
it give a comlete list of capacity and oil types. im gna do the change myself next week (when oil n filter come)
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essNchill
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That guide is worth about as much as the poo I have just flushed away.
It doesn't account for mileage, mods or driving habits. It is no good apart from it makes you want to buy their product LOL!
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essNchill
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Oh and if you wanted an "actual guide", from specialists who know what they are talking about, here's a couple from one of our sponsored NPOC traders and also the place a lot of us buy our oil from (and depending on our car setups, some of use different oil):
-------------------------- This post may seem like going back to basics but we are constantly surprised by the amount of people who do not know or understand what is written on a bottle of oil and therefore have no idea of what they are looking for, buying or using. This post should help as a basic guide, for more detailed information contact us and we will be happy to help.
The lower the "W" number the better the oils cold temperature/cold start performance. I.E. 5w is better than 10w etc Once again the lower the number the thinner the oil, a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100 degC etc. Your handbook will specify whether a 30, 40 or 50 etc is required. SPECIFICATIONS
S = Petrol and C = Diesel, most oils carry both petrol (S) and diesel (C) specifications. May be used where the following specifications apply... Approved by "?"..(but with no qualification or specification) Recommended/Approved by (some famous person, these endorsements are paid for)
------------- & ------------- I read on many forums about 0w and 5w oils being too thin.0w-40, 5w-40, 10w-40 and 15w-40 are all the same thickness (14 centistokes) at 100degC. Centistokes (cst) is the measure of a fluid's resistance to flow (viscosity). It is calculated in terms of the time required for a standard quantity of fluid at a certain temperature to flow through a standard orifice. The higher the value, the more viscous the fluid. As viscosity varies with temperature, the value is meaningless unless accompanied by the temperature at which it is measured. In the case of oils, viscosity is generally reported in centistokes (cst) and usually measured at 40degC and 100degC. So, all oils that end in 40 (sae 40) are around 14cst thickness at 100degC. This applies to all oils that end in the same number, all oils that end in 50 (sae 50) are around 18.5cst at 100degC and all oils that end in 60 (sae 60) are around 24cst at 100degC. With me so far? Great! Now, ALL oils are thicker when cold. Confused? It's true and here is a table to illustrate this. SAE 40 (straight 40) Temp degC.........................Viscosity (thickness) 0..........................................2579cst 20..........................................473cst 40..........................................135cst 60..........................................52.2cs t 100........................................ 14cst 120.........................................8.8cst As you will see, there is plenty of viscosity at 0degC, in fact many times more than at 100degC and this is the problem especially in cold weather, can the oil flow quick enough to protect vital engine parts at start up. Not really! So, given that an sae 40 is 14cst at 100degC which is adequate viscosity to protect the engine, and much thicker when cold, how can a 0w oil be too thin? Well, it can't is the truth. The clever part (thanks to synthetics) is that thin base oils can be used so that start up viscosity (on say a 5w-40 at 0degC) is reduced to around 800cst and this obviously gives much better flow than a monograde sae 40 (2579cst as quoted above). So, how does this happen, well as explained at the beginning, it's all about temperature, yes a thin base oil is still thicker when cold than at 100degC but the clever stuff (due to synthetics again) is that the chemists are able to build these oils out of molecules that do not thin to less than 14cst at 100degC! What are the parameters for our recommendations? Well, we always talk about good cold start protection, by this we mean flow so a 5w will flow better than a 10w and so on. This is why we recommend 5w or 10w as the thickest you want to use except in exceptional circumstances. Flow is critical to protect the engine from wear! We also talk about oil temps, mods and what the car is used for. This is related to the second number xw-(XX) as there may be issues with oil temperatures causing the oil to be too thin and therefore the possibility of metal to metal contact. This is difficult to explain but, if for example your oil temp does not exceed 120degC at any time then a good "shear stable" sae 40 is perfectly capable of giving protection. "Shear stability" is important here because if the oil shears it thins and that's not good! However, if you are seeing temperatures in excess of 120degC due to mods and track use etc then there is a strong argument to using an sae 50 as it will have more viscosity at these excessive temperatures. There are trade offs here. Thicker oils cause more friction and therefore more heat and they waste power and affect fuel consumption so it's always best to use the thinnest oil (i.e. second number) that you can get away with and still maintain oil pressure. ------------- Now that's a guide LOL! You gotta remember that when Nissan filled your car with 5W 30, 12 years ago or so, it had 0 miles on the clock and oil technology wasn't what it was today... So 5W 30 maybe no good to you now.
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TheStigP11GT
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I was always recommended to use 10w40, I use it on all my Nissans. My Primera is at 207000 miles and runs sweet.
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SteveB
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New engines sometimes have a different oil in them to speed up bedding in, so whatever is used at new isn't really a good guide to what is best long term. I'm old enough to remember when new Japanese bike engines were filled with a mix of fish oil and wax when exported and that's how the customer received their new bike Not that I'm suggesting Nissan ever did that with Primera engines.
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1997 2.0 SLX P11
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hoofy
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10w40 semi synthetic... And don't use ANY engine flush and ALWAYS use genuine Nissan oil filter
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Dan
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any always remeber to check you do the oil filter up tightly as its a bitch if your nice new oil pisses out the oil filter housing ll over your's or someone elses drive!
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